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2019 Formula One Discussion

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So much work goes into the paints and coatings they use, and a full on one off livery has to be unanimously approved by a lot of entities within F1 and the FIA, so it’s no surprise this is what the result is. It’s still fantastic symbolism and looks good too.
 

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That race was insanity. Mercedes not scoring, Vettel coming from 20th to 2nd, Lance fucking Stroll and Racing Point with amazing strategy, Daniil fucking Kvyat with a podium... My goodness.
 

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^ unfortunately it might not be enough of a turnaround for Williams to start a comeback, but it is nice to see them on the scoreboard again.
 

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Something I just thought of as an interesting theory to the season... What if we're watching history repeat itself after 10 years?

In 2009, Brawn GP started out as the dominant force of the season, snatching up race win after race win much like Mercedes has this year. However, about midway through the season, the chasing pack caught up to Brawn, and the team went from "Most Likely to Win" to "Podium Contender". Of the last 3 races, Mercedes has only 3 of the 9 possible podium spots (3rd in Austria, 1-2 at Silverstone), and scored no points yesterday in Germany. Could this be a sign that Red Bull, Ferrari, and the rest have begun to catch up?
 

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Something I just thought of as an interesting theory to the season... What if we're watching history repeat itself after 10 years?

In 2009, Brawn GP started out as the dominant force of the season, snatching up race win after race win much like Mercedes has this year. However, about midway through the season, the chasing pack caught up to Brawn, and the team went from "Most Likely to Win" to "Podium Contender". Of the last 3 races, Mercedes has only 3 of the 9 possible podium spots (3rd in Austria, 1-2 at Silverstone), and scored no points yesterday in Germany. Could this be a sign that Red Bull, Ferrari, and the rest have begun to catch up?
While it would be nice to see, I'm still expecting Hamilton to dominate the rest of the season. Doesn't change the fact that this race was amazing to watch, and that it would be great to see Mercedes being challenged or making mistakes more often.
About the race, it still sucks for Hülkenberg. My heart sank when I saw him in the wall. Seems like something always happens when he's in contention for a podium.
 

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Alex Albon moves to Red Bull Racing starting as of Spa, replacing Pierre Gasly as he gets sent back down to Scuderia Toro Rosso.


My opinion:
While I agree that Gasly needed to be removed, I just don't think Albon is ready for the jump. Maybe if he finished off the season at STR and got a full F1 season under his belt, I can see him transitioning. But I guess they have nothing to lose, as I can't see them surpassing Ferrari in constructors' by the end of the year.

Though it's not going to happen, I kinda thought that if they waited to see what was happening over at Mercedes, maybe RBR could swoop in and take Valtteri Bottas if they weren't resigning him but that's just imaginative thinking.
 

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I'm pretty pessimistic about this move. Yeah Gasly's performance hasn't been up to par, but why on earth would RBR think anything other than putting Albon in the car would be Gasly 2.0? Let's replace an underdeveloped driver with an even more underdeveloped driver. They got lucky that Max is a generational phenom. Odds are that won't happen again.

Also, guess I'll never trust anything that Helmut Marko says ever again.
 

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Well, I, for once, never believed their claims of Gasly being safe. It was bound to happen. No podiums for him in 12 races while Max has already won twice (nearly three times). I already expected those news during the summer break. And, just like most people, I believe that it might be a little too early to promote Albon to the main team. He hasn't even finished his rookie season yet and it's not like he was destroying Kyvat either. Sure, he was matching and occasionally beating him, but no dominance over him whatsoever. Red Bull simply don't want to look back after demoting Kyvat in 2016, since that would leave a bad image.
I wish the best for Albon during the rest of the season, but I'm not expecting him to perform that much better. I sure hope he proves us wrong, though.
And let's not forget that the last time they promoted a driver mid-season, it instantly produced results. :rolleyes:
 

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Well, I, for once, never believed their claims of Gasly being safe. It was bound to happen. No podiums for him in 12 races while Max has already won twice (nearly three times). I already expected those news during the summer break. And, just like most people, I believe that it might be a little too early to promote Albon to the main team. He hasn't even finished his rookie season yet and it's not like he was destroying Kyvat either. Sure, he was matching and occasionally beating him, but no dominance over him whatsoever. Red Bull simply don't want to look back after demoting Kyvat in 2016, since that would leave a bad image.
I wish the best for Albon during the rest of the season, but I'm not expecting him to perform that much better. I sure hope he proves us wrong, though.
And let's not forget that the last time they promoted a driver mid-season, it instantly produced results. :rolleyes:
I read somewhere that this is not Albon's final resting place either. Kvyat is a performance benchmark, so by cycling drivers against Kvyat, a known quantity, they can gauge their talent levels. Whichever does the best of the 3 will likely get the seat for 2020
 

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Valtteri Bottas will be returning to Mercedes next year for the second driver role, on a 1-year contract extension.


And Esteban Ocon will be leaving whatever lowball position he had at Mercedes and he's going to Renault. It's possible that he will be replacing Nico Hulkenberg for the second driver seat next year.
 

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It's possible that he will be replacing Nico Hulkenberg for the second driver seat next year.
It's not just possible, that is what he's doing. Basically on loan from Merc.

Hulk is out, KMag is staying as Haas. Steiner said this morning before the Ocon announcement that it was down to Grosjean, Ocon, and Hulk for the other Haas seat, so basically a Hulk-KMag "suck my balls" lineup at Haas is all but confirmed.
 

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It's not just possible, that is what he's doing. Basically on loan from Merc.

Hulk is out, KMag is staying as Haas. Steiner said this morning before the Ocon announcement that it was down to Grosjean, Ocon, and Hulk for the other Haas seat, so basically a Hulk-KMag "suck my balls" lineup at Haas is all but confirmed.
There Haas to be a seat for Hulkenberg next year.
 

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I guess Steiner feels like Grosjean has become too much of a pain in the Haas this season....
 

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Anthoine was doing brilliant things in a rubbish car this season. A wonderful talent taken way too soon.

He's the first major driver to pass in my lifetime who is younger than I am, and its blowing my mind. He had so much ahead of him.

Safety in motorsports evolves from tragedy. I just hope Anthoine's legacy can live on through whatever changes the FIA may make in the future.
 

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The thing is, what do they do to that corner? What can you do with the cliff that is behind the barriers at the top of Radillon? I mean, SAFER barriers wouldn't be a completely bad idea. Thing is, how do you stop a car from getting thrown back near the racing line.
 

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The thing is, what do they do to that corner? What can you do with the cliff that is behind the barriers at the top of Radillon? I mean, SAFER barriers wouldn't be a completely bad idea. Thing is, how do you stop a car from getting thrown back near the racing line.
That would be the worst idea. If the goal is to stop cars from being spit back on the racetrack, the last thing we need is to put a wall with it's entire purpose is to act like a spring there. Many people have failed to realize it, but this is one of those situations where you really can't do anything. No amount of reworking corners, runoffs, or even walls will protect drivers in carbon fiber racecars from being slammed into by other carbon fiber racecars at 180 miles an hour. It is sad but this is the nature of racing, it is a blood sport.
 
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