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NASCAR potentially instituting budget cap in next few seasons

Discussion in 'NASCAR Discussion' started by labontefanboy, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. labontefanboy

    labontefanboy Well-Known Member

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    https://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2018/1/11/16873988/nascar-team-budget-cap

    Quick summary:

    "Once an idea that would’ve been soundly dismissed, it’s now being seriously considered. NASCAR and its teams have had multiple discussions about such an idea, and the consensus among the multitude of NASCAR executives, team owners and executives, drivers, and manufacturer representatives that SB Nation spoke with is that while a budget cap won’t be instituted in the immediate future, it is likely to come within the next three to four years.

    The exact framework of the budget cap is still being crafted, but a rough outline has emerged that will serve NASCAR and its teams on two primary fronts: 1) It will help teams reduce and better manage operating costs that are no longer practical in an economic climate where teams face a sponsorship deficiency, and 2) A way to induce better competitive balance and bridge the gap between the powerhouse organizations and the minnows."
     
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  2. nj9703

    nj9703 Very Stable Genius

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    How the hell will this be enforced.
     
  3. AMLNet49

    AMLNet49 Well-Known Member

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    This needed to happen 10 years ago but hey it’s real progress for once let’s hope it works.
     
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  4. MrDude68

    MrDude68 Occasional Backwards Driver

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    Finally. I'm super curious to see what comes of this.
     
  5. ShadowKnight508

    ShadowKnight508 Lt. Commish - SRD Pick-Em Series

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    Agreed. It is good to finally see NASCAR doing something to help keep the expenses down so that smaller, low-budget teams (the ones with inferior/sub-par resources) can be somewhat more competitive against the bigger teams on-track. Hopefully this ends up being really helpful for all of the smaller teams out down the road and perhaps will help get other teams started in NASCAR (new owners/groups forming teams like in the good old days) with the costs coming down.
     
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  6. Bradfan4ever

    Bradfan4ever Keselowski2Wallace

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    about time NASCAR
     
  7. Phoenix

    Phoenix Dilly Dilly

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    This won’t change anything, the slower cars will still be greatly inferior, and the only fix is chopping the field to 32. The last 8 cars are an embarrassment anyway.
     
  8. burtonbraves

    burtonbraves Fictional Extraordinaire

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    No
     
  9. AMLNet49

    AMLNet49 Well-Known Member

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    If you can cut sponsorship for big teams down to a rate where one sponsor can cover a full season, this problem will go away. That to me is the key number, getting it down to a point where full season sponsorship is affordable to spread the sponsors back out between the teams more evenly. You have to get it to a point where when a new sponsor comes into the sport the default is to find a new team instead of joining a current driver
     
  10. Chevellion

    Chevellion SRD Cup League Director

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    This feels more reactive than proactive. If they could find a way to entice more sponsors into the sport, there wouldn't need to be a reason to stem the fiscal bleeding.
     
  11. Petty4345

    Petty4345 Well-Known Member

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    Agree that this is something that should have already been done. With sponsorship becoming more and more harder to find the same big team's are just running everyone else out. Just look at all the team's that have went the way of the dinosaur's in the last 10 to 15 year's. The cost has just gotten out of hand and you got to do something.
     
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  12. labontefanboy

    labontefanboy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I really have a hard time seeing how this could logistically be possible. It's not like stick and ball sports where we're talking about franchises operating under one league banner, obviously all the team compete under NASCAR but the race team ownership is just a different model. The only way I see this being possible is if there's some kind of language in the charter system that would give NASCAR this option down the road .
     
  13. zaw24fan

    zaw24fan SRD National Series Director Paint Crew

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    Trevor Bayne fans be like

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  14. AMLNet49

    AMLNet49 Well-Known Member

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    There probably is, the team owners are partially franchise owners now (even though they don’t own Nascar stock directly) through the guaranteed purse payouts. Chartered teams are at Nascar’s mercy with the threat of losing the Charter possibly being very useful in forcing teams to do this
     
  15. nj9703

    nj9703 Very Stable Genius

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    Yeah, but some threats don’t mean shit when there is no way to enforce this. What are they going to do? Make them send in spending reports? Easy, just lie.

    Just let the small teams die, who needs them running 10 seconds off pace anyway. They’re a waste of the race winnings that could go to teams that put the time, work, and money in.
     
  16. Bradfan4ever

    Bradfan4ever Keselowski2Wallace

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    There are plenty threats.

    Banned from Qualifying and starts 40th. 1st threat 1 race, 2nd threat 2 races, and so on...
    No Practice time at speedway. 1st threat 1 race, 2nd threat 2 races, and so on...
    5 lap penalty at the start of the race.
    Driver receives no points for the event.
    Driver is disqualified from competing in Championship.
    Driver is suspended until Nascar approves Salary Cap.
    All cars from the Team must be sent to the R&D race ready, and nascar will bring them to the track in pieces and they have to rebuild it at the track.
    Take apart their engine before the race and tell them to rebuild it and then maybe let them race if they approve. (days of thunder reference)
     
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  17. AMLNet49

    AMLNet49 Well-Known Member

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    Because they won’t be small teams anymore once major sponsors start jumping to them. If all sponsorship was cheap enough to cover a season or even 1/2 a season, the small teams would suddenly get funded and be able to form alliances like FRR/FRM/JTG/LFR did to get competitive.

    The biggest reason all those teams at the back run like shit is that big teams have been hogging all the big sponsors for 9 years because since the recession/increasing R&D costs, every car needs like 3-5 sponsors to get through a season.

    The goal is basically to get back to 2008 level of competition, where the worst car on track is the equivalent of today’s #72 car (not a terrible ride, top 25 capable most weeks) or thereabouts
     
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  18. Bowman The Showman

    Bowman The Showman Well-Known Member

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    The same stuff was said by nascar in the mid 2000’s. Sounds like the Car of Tomorrow is coming back...
     
  19. 4WideRacing

    4WideRacing Well-Known Member

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    Please, NO!
     
  20. MattSRD28

    MattSRD28 SRD Pick'em Series Commissioner Moderator

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    Salary caps have worked more or less in other sports. Cup Series might be heading towards a model of 30-36 franchise cars per race, and this would be a step in that direction. If that happens, the owners of those smaller teams who run in the back will suddenly see all their financial dreams come true.
     
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