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NASCAR Silly Season and News

Discussion in 'NASCAR Discussion' started by ahspencer01, Jul 27, 2018.

  1. thedude1987

    thedude1987 King of Pepsi, Racer, Family Man!

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    In the end, I see this as the Carl Edwards/Daniel Suarez situation... XCI will be a 5th JGR team with either Bell or Jones to make room for both in cup
     
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  2. db512

    db512 2011 SRD Cup Series Champion

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    If they do go ahead with the XCI team for next season with one of those two driving I would guess this would be more of JGR/FRR alliance cars and technology unlike the JGR/LFR relationship now with just cars no technical help. Essentially making it a 5th JGR car.

    If I were a team like say a Chip Ganassi, I would be exploring my options to switch to a Toyota and try and be in position for some of these young guys like Bell or Jones or even Harrison Burton if things pan out. Toyota is loyal to their teams and drivers in bring them up through the ranks you could pick and choose from whatever talented drivers they have coming up next. I know CGR wouldn't switch probably but it does seem tempting I'm sure.
     
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  3. mtblillie

    mtblillie Well-Known Member

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    CGR switched to Chevy as part of the deal to merge with DEI. I'm not sure that switching manufacturers is off the table for them. They drive Honda in Indycar (despite chevy being available) and they drive Ford in the sports car series they run, so anything is possible.
     
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  4. MrDude68

    MrDude68 Occasional Backwards Driver

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    Am I the only one wondering what the point is of having a 4 car restriction if teams can essentially field a 5th car under a different name anyway?
     
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  5. Dodgeman4345

    Dodgeman4345 Well-Known Member

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    Because they put in the restriction to 4 cars when Roush had his 5 cars. Then teams found the loophole to field a 5th car without actually fielding a 5th car. Lol.
     
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  6. BrendonH12

    BrendonH12 Lover of Jesus! #CarolinaStrong Moderator

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    I agree. I have never liked that rule and to be frank, it’s very stupid, imo. If an owner has enough funds and is willing to field eight cars, then by all means, let him do it - even if it’s Joe Gibbs! lol
     
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  7. MrDude68

    MrDude68 Occasional Backwards Driver

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    I had no problem with Roush having 5 cars, and even a sixth on the track sometimes. He was providing more good cars for people to drive in the Cup series.
     
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  8. dalejr88rox

    dalejr88rox Raise hell, praise Dale, burn down Panera Bread

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    Well it was enacted in 2008 (Roush had an extra year to downsize due to existing contracts), but I have to imagine it was some idea they had to help the teams during the recession, but I doubt it worked
     
  9. BaCruise

    BaCruise Member

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    If I remember correctly, I think Brian France or some other higher-up at the time was quoted as saying that they didn't want one team taking all the spots in the Chase after Roush managed to get 5 of his cars in the original 10 car Chase format. If my memory is indeed correct, then the current 4-car finale at Homestead rips the rationale for the original 4-car limit to shreds, thus theoretically making the rule archaic.
     
  10. 4WideRacing

    4WideRacing Well-Known Member

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    Shh, don't say it too loud or they will change it to 3 cars max
     
  11. nascarfan9

    nascarfan9 Category 5 Punicane.

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    Honestly though, three cars might be perfect, because the fourth usually sucks anyways...
     
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  12. 4WideRacing

    4WideRacing Well-Known Member

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    But that should be up to the teams
     
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  13. mtblillie

    mtblillie Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I don't know. It's a sticky situation either way. Part of the issue was that these larger teams had a lot to throw into R&D and then those teams would top the board (which still happens), but it keeps smaller teams from having a shot at getting anywhere. I think part of the reasoning was to try and help minimize a situation like "the big 3" from happening, even though it happened anyway.
     
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  14. dalejr88rox

    dalejr88rox Raise hell, praise Dale, burn down Panera Bread

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    Limiting the number of people who want to participate in your series isn't a great idea. Just look at how F1's doing since they've been rejecting teams wanting to join for decades
     
  15. nj9703

    nj9703 Very Stable Genius

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    Either cut the field size down another couple spots or, preferably, get rid of the charter limit. Teams have no incentive to get better right now, because they’re locked in and get an automatic paycheck. They get paid to purposely not try to run well. That’s not racing. The point of showing up to a racetrack is to be the best you can be. Make em fight for it one way or another, either by making it harder to get into (thus increasing their competitiveness) or by making them have to beat a few more already competitive cars.
     
  16. MrDude68

    MrDude68 Occasional Backwards Driver

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    No, no more cutting the field size. They already did that in every series and it didn't change a thing.
     
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  17. RacerXero84

    RacerXero84 Obnoxious old fart

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    Maybe it's just me, but how about ditch charters, team limits, "locked in" and the fastest 40 or 43 or whatever get to race and the rest go the hell home? I know, it's a novel idea that's only been around since forever....
     
  18. Brandon Miller

    Brandon Miller Well-Known Member

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    That worked well and good until high name drivers and/or sponsors went home for not qualifying well and the bitchfest ensued.
     
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  19. RacerXero84

    RacerXero84 Obnoxious old fart

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    Totally get it, guess I'm just good at ignoring whining (thanks to having 2 kids I guess? lol) If a big name driver doesn't make the cut... uhhh.... get gud? Better luck next time? *shrugs*
     
  20. Brandon Miller

    Brandon Miller Well-Known Member

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    Oh I agree. I watched it happen in the 80s. I think it would bring some more drama and intensity back to the sport.
     
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